but there are big differences. first of all, they came across the atlantic ocean which served as a sipsychological guillotine. it's very different when you are the only developed nation in the world with a 2,000-mile border with a developing nation. people can walk across and go back and send money back and there's no, again, severing of the connection to the old country. second, back in 1911, our economy could absorb almost an unlimited wave of unskilled labor. american economy is very different now. there's another problem. i don't know how to quantify this and it's hard to measure, but today's immigrants are immigrating into a welfare state. we don't know the extent it's hard to measusu but some extent this may be a magnet to people coming to this country for different reasons. >> george, part of that problem, in breaking ties, is not being allowed to become an american. i was, because i came legally -- you came in '62. >> right, right. under political circumstances but at the end of the day, i became an america